Jon Kabat-Zinn, the founder of mindfulness-based stress reduction and author of multiple books, is a man that’s busier than most. In this video from Oprah Winfrey’s Super Soul Sunday, he shares how he makes time for mindfulness in his morning routine.

Three Ways to Make Your Morning Routine More Mindful

“There’s waking up—dragging yourself around—and then there’s waking up,” Kabat-Zinn says. Here’s how he adds more mindfulness to his mornings: